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Autumn Wind
02-08-2006, 05:25 PM
Talk around the campfire is that Whisenhunt will turn down the Raiders HC offer due to power issues. They will then bring back Art Shell.

:screams:
TK
02-08-2006, 05:45 PM
They will then bring back Art Shell.

:lool:
Orgazmo
02-08-2006, 06:11 PM
Talk around the campfire is that Whisenhunt will turn down the Raiders HC offer due to power issues. They will then bring back Art Shell.

:screams:

Gotta give Whisenhunt some credit.

Get with the times, AL! :Gotobedoldman:
mcbokonon
02-09-2006, 01:17 AM
Thanks for the wonderful news. You da man!
rurbaniak
02-09-2006, 03:46 AM
Is it possible that the Raiders job is less appealing than the Lions? :unsure:

:hyper:
Autumn Wind
02-10-2006, 04:52 PM
Is it possible that the Raiders job is less appealing than the Lions? :unsure:

:hyper:

Yes. :mad:
SigEp316
02-10-2006, 04:56 PM
Yes. :mad:

it's pretty bad...the guys on PTI called it carreer suicide for whoever took the position.

As long as ol' yeller teef is there, they're gonna be the suck!
kraziness
02-10-2006, 05:27 PM
I keep thinking about this job the same way the PTI guys were talking about Pearl as the b-ball coach at Tenn. There are high expectations, but nobody ever does much with them, so they get fired real quick. It's not great if you want to become a legend, but it's FANTASTIC if you want to work for 2 years and then get paid for 2-3 more after your fired.
mcbokonon
02-11-2006, 02:54 AM
ESPN news just reported Art Shell is the man in Oakland.
mcbokonon
02-11-2006, 03:03 AM
also!@#$ Is the first Steinbrenner/Billy Martin-like episode in the NFL? :dunno:
Orgazmo
02-11-2006, 03:06 AM
also!@#$ Is the first Steinbrenner/Billy Martin-like episode in the NFL? :dunno:

I think so. The closest I can think of is Gunther getting a second chance in KC as a coordinator.

Also BWAHAHAHAHAHA :D
mcbokonon
02-11-2006, 03:12 AM
I don't know why I find this amusing. I mean, it's not like the Raiders are in the Steelers' division or anything, but there's a part of me that likes watching them wallow in mediocrity. I can't explain it.
Orgazmo
02-11-2006, 03:28 AM
I don't know why I find this amusing. I mean, it's not like the Raiders are in the Steelers' division or anything, but there's a part of me that likes watching them wallow in mediocrity. I can't explain it.

Mebbe because Al is a metaphor for the horrible my-way-or-the-highway run the business into the ground type boss everyone has worked for one time or another. :detective:
SigEp316
02-11-2006, 05:29 AM
:lool: :lool: :lool:
Autumn Wind
02-11-2006, 01:23 PM
Well, at least I can say I was right. :screams:
whoisjgalt
02-11-2006, 07:48 PM
I don't know why I find this amusing. I mean, it's not like the Raiders are in the Steelers' division or anything, but there's a part of me that likes watching them wallow in mediocrity. I can't explain it.

Ha - mediocrity - if only.

:sadbanana: :wigglypea: :sadbanana:
Autumn Wind
02-11-2006, 08:23 PM
Yeah, I would cream my jeans at a 7-9 season. :no:
t.j
02-28-2006, 01:39 PM
Yeah, I would cream my jeans at a 7-9 season. :no:

:jerk: :sadbanana:

With the Raiders at #7, it's possible that neither Mario Williams or AJ Hawk will fall to them. I'm starting to think the Raiders might end up picking Jay Culter.
Or, in a completely different direction, TE Vernon Davis. (Davis had a great combine, the Raiders love teh great athletes, Courtney Anderson was very disappointing after a good week 1, Andrew Walter loves to use the TE.)
Autumn Wind
02-28-2006, 02:01 PM
:jerk: :sadbanana:

With the Raiders at #7, it's possible that neither Mario Williams or AJ Hawk will fall to them. I'm starting to think the Raiders might end up picking Jay Culter.
Or, in a completely different direction, TE Vernon Davis. (Davis had a great combine, the Raiders love teh great athletes, Courtney Anderson was very disappointing after a good week 1, Andrew Walter loves to use the TE.)

Yeah, a TE in the 1st round is just what we need. :no:
whoisjgalt
02-28-2006, 02:23 PM
Hopefully, it's Ngata in the first (unless one of Mario or Hawk falls to us) and then either Lawson or Carpenter is available in the second.
whoisjgalt
02-28-2006, 05:59 PM
Hopefully, it's Ngata in the first (unless one of Mario or Hawk falls to us) and then either Lawson or Carpenter is available in the second.

Or maybe scrap the Ngata idea and grab Greenway:

Greenway gets the nod ... because of his speed and coverage ability. Keep in mind Greenway covered Chad Jackson from the slot in the Outback Bowl.
Autumn Wind
03-01-2006, 01:42 PM
Hopefully, it's Ngata in the first (unless one of Mario or Hawk falls to us) and then either Lawson or Carpenter is available in the second.

Yeah, I'm thinking we can forget about Mario and Hawk. :no:
t.j
03-01-2006, 03:55 PM
Or maybe scrap the Ngata idea and grab Greenway:

:wigglypea: (http://www.foothillsdesign.com/geeks/index.php?topic=13735.msg238689#msg238689)
t.j
03-01-2006, 04:08 PM
So what is your guys' draft board for the Raiders? Here's my top 7 even though most we won't get a chance at:
1. Reggie - obviously he won't be a Raider. But even though we have LaMont locked up long term, I'd love to have him, especially since Jordan's weaknesses are that he doesn't have breakaway speed and can't catch worth a shit.
2. Brick - move fucking Barry Sims to fucking LG where he fucking belongs and let's get some real fucking tackle play
3. Mario - We haven't had a great DE since... Howie?
4. Ngata - Haloti, IMO, is either this good, or not top-7 worthy. I'd scout the hell out of him before throwing a pick and money at him. The Raiders have gotten burned badly by some great talents at DT not living up to it. Not to mention the great talents that did live up to it mostly until after we let them go (i.e. Coleman, Glover, etc). :wigglypea: As I've said before, I'd love to see us rebuild (which we won't), starting with cutting Sapp/Washington and replacing them with fresh meat.
5. Cutler - getting pounded by opposing teams that are superior at 80% of the positions to his own team is perfect preparation for the Raiders.
6. Leinart - I don't like him enough to want to trade up for him, but if he fell to us, IMO would be stupid not to take him.
7. Vince - I'd have him higher, but on top of all the other questions around him, it would be hard as hell to draw up an offense that works for both young Vince and backup Andrew Walter.

not in the top 7 I know, but needs a mention since I'm not sure Ngata is worthy of top 7...
8. maybe I'm ignant, but I just can't bring myself to believe a LB is more important than a good passer this early in the draft. Hawk has all the skills it seems, but nothing amazing athletically.
whoisjgalt
03-01-2006, 08:13 PM
OLB is a need position - a big need position. That being said, Mario or Ngata would also help with need positions too and prolly are far more superior compared to the guys at those positions that would be available a round later. So I guess I'm coming around to the idea that D-Line ought to be addressed first, then find a way to get the OLB's later.

That said, I'd still put OLB way ahead of any position on offense.
kraziness
03-02-2006, 12:19 AM
OLB is a need position - a big need position. That being said, Mario or Ngata would also help with need positions too and prolly are far more superior compared to the guys at those positions that would be available a round later. So I guess I'm coming around to the idea that D-Line ought to be addressed first, then find a way to get the OLB's later.

That said, I'd still put OLB way ahead of any position on offense.

This is really good evaluation. There is a TON of LB depth in this draft; really good prospects can be had in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. That being said, it all comes down to who they label as the best player available. I think Hawk is the safest pick, he'll be a good LB as long as he has decent talent around him- and LBs aren't usually as high risk as the other positions. Williams looks to be a sure bet, but DL can often struggle to get adjusted. Ngata looks to be fairly risky because of his inconsistancy... but NTs with his size/speed are very hard to come by.

To me, it'd come down to each team's draft strategy best player available, high risk/high reward, or play the draft in its entirety (get a DE now because you can get a LB later).