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DarrenW

02-10-2006, 09:01 PM

So what do people think about this Tocchet/Gretsky's wife situation?

I think it's interesting that she came right out and stated that she did not place bets for Wayne. Is she really that much of a gambling junky or is she covering up for him? Why would she just offer up this information? Isn't it better to make blanket statements until you're actually asked specific questions?

Something seems fishy to me.

S.D. Jones

02-10-2006, 09:04 PM

There's no doubt in my mind that he's dirty as shit. At the same time, I also think this wouldn't be such a big story if it didn't go down during the slowest sports month of the year.

Dr. Rosenpenis

02-10-2006, 09:06 PM

I'd agree that she's probably the middle woman to keep Wayne's nose clean. Apparently there were no bets on hockey? If that's true then who cares?

otherthanit'sagainstthelawiguess

02-10-2006, 09:06 PM

1. I think she's a junky. From what I gather, this is not just some Superbowl square thing, it reaches deep, and has been linked to organized crime.

2. I can't believe Gretzky used it to bet on games of any sort. But that's just how I feel when considering his demeanor, which doesn't amount to squat.

Also, every time the man speaks, I just want to curl up in the fetal position and doze off. Possibly the most boring, non-charasmatic human being ever to walk the planet.

Alsoalso!!@#

Who are you? Where did you come from? And welcome!

S.D. Jones

02-10-2006, 09:07 PM

I'd agree that she's probably the middle woman to keep Wayne's nose clean. Apparently there were no bets on hockey? If that's true then who cares?

otherthanit'sagainstthelawiguess

Much like Darren said regarding it being interesting that she came right out and said she didn't place bets for Wayne, I found it interesting that they made sure to come right out and say there was no betting on hockey.

Also, its kick ass that the Unabomber prosecutor was brought in.

Dr. Rosenpenis

02-10-2006, 09:12 PM

Much like Darren said regarding it being interesting that she came right out and said she didn't place bets for Wayne, I found it interesting that they made sure to come right out and say there was no betting on hockey.

Also, its kick ass that the Unabomber prosecutor was brought in.

:detective:

DarrenW

02-10-2006, 09:35 PM

Also, every time the man speaks, I just want to curl up in the fetal position and doze off. Possibly the most boring, non-charasmatic human being ever to walk the planet.

I watched his 30 second press conference last night after the Stars/Coyotes game. He is either A) Guilty as hell. B) Like you said TK, a horrible speaker or C) All of the above.

He looked so uncomfortable last night. And he didn't even seem to be displaying the appropriate emotions. These are serious allegations and his reaction was just awkward.

EMoney

02-10-2006, 09:58 PM

:detective:

:D

S.D. Jones

02-10-2006, 10:15 PM

1. I think she's a junky. From what I gather, this is not just some Superbowl square thing, it reaches deep, and has been linked to organized crime.

I've heard them say she placed over $100,000 in bets, including $5000 on the coin toss at the Super Bowl (winner).

02-10-2006, 10:18 PM

I've heard them say she placed over $100,000 in bets, including $5000 on the coin toss at the Super Bowl (winner).

Yup, she's junkified.

I really have the feeling that Gretzky is more of a concerned husband than anything else, and the fact that he let Tocchet cater to his wife's sickness kinda makes him a pussy, too.

dolfan06

02-10-2006, 10:25 PM

S.D. Jones

02-10-2006, 10:32 PM

I guess what I'm missing here is, if you really need to bet, don't you need to try really hard to do it illegally? I mean, can't anyone just call up a sports book in Vegas and bet without being a gambling ring?

I'm guessing if they're betting that much money, they would do it illegally for two reasons 1) no income taxes 2) keep it out of the news that Wayne Gretzky and his wife bet $100,000 over the last 6 months.

dolfan06

02-10-2006, 10:35 PM

I'm guessing if they're betting that much money, they would do it illegally for two reasons 1) no income taxes 2) keep it out of the news that Wayne Gretzky and his wife bet $100,000 over the last 6 months.

That's like pocket change to them though isnt it? Didnt Michael Jordan have the same problem?

S.D. Jones

02-10-2006, 10:37 PM

That's like pocket change to them though isnt it? Didnt Michael Jordan have the same problem?

He did. I still am of the belief that Jordan's first "retirement" was actually a year long ban for gambling on sports.

I meant more that it doesn't look to greta that Wayne Gretzky and his cyborg-looking wife have gambling problems when he's the coach of an NHL team.

Dr. Rosenpenis

02-10-2006, 10:44 PM

He did. I still am of the belief that Jordan's first "retirement" was actually a year long ban for gambling on sports.

:highfive:

I absolutely believe this too. My friends think I'm crazy.

Jordan Spice: I saw Jordan playing black jack at the Flamingo in New Orleans in 1996. I drunkenly stuck my hand between a couple posse members and got a look away shake as he left.

The whole posse sat down at my buddies table after he told them he wouldn't leave (not realizing what was up). When he got up to take a piss they threw up the velvet ropes.

Autumn Wind

02-11-2006, 03:08 AM

I've wanted Wayne to eat shit ever since he called the Devils a Mickey Mouse franchise. :hyper:

mcbokonon

02-11-2006, 03:17 AM

Mario > Wayne.

Wilzone

02-11-2006, 04:26 PM

Alsoalso!!@#

Who are you? Where did you come from? And welcome!

He's DarrenW, for crying out loud!!@$#@ Don't you remember? He's the one who did that crazy thing back in the day with that chick from the place we talked about. He's a living legend. :hyper:

Also, welcome DarrenW! Feel free to PM me if TK bothers you anymore.

02-13-2006, 12:32 PM

He's DarrenW, for crying out loud!!@$#@ Don't you remember? He's the one who did that crazy thing back in the day with that chick from the place we talked about. He's a living legend. :hyper:

ohhhhh DARREN w. My bad. That guy - I've never before seen a fat guy get so annihilated on wine coolers before! That guy's an animal right there!

DarrenW

02-13-2006, 04:42 PM

02-13-2006, 04:44 PM

dolfan06

02-13-2006, 06:00 PM

I especially like the fact that when asked about whether he knew about his wife gambling, he said something like, "I don't know. Talk to her."

Then they find wiretaps of him talking to Tocchet about getting his wife's name out of the mix.

"Um. Gee. I don't know nothing." :rolleyes:

Yeah but the wiretaps are like from the day or the day after the gambling ring stories broke in the media, which actually go to support what Gretzky said about not knowing of his wife's gambling.

So the real question is, what exactly is the purpose behind this vendetta you seem to have against Wayne Gretzky, DarrenW?

DarrenW

02-13-2006, 06:56 PM

I don't have a vendetta against Wayne. His dingo didn't eat my baby or anything like that. Unfortunately in this day and age, when a high profile athlete is accused of some wrongdoing, it seems that more often than not, they are found to be guilty. It's unfortunate, but with athletes it seems that from the media/public's perspective that you are guilty until proven innocent.

I also have a hard time understanding how A) Wayne would have no prior knowledge of his wife's involvement in an illegal gambling ring with his assistant coach and B) If he did indeed have knowledge then why he would allow it to continue to the tune of $500,000? It's not like she snuck out and bought an expensive purse without telling him. She bet half a million dollars!! Something is missing with this picture.

*I'm not sure what you mean by mystery, TK. I'm Darren. I like fantasy football and sports in general. I was hoping to come over here and shoot the breeze. Is that a problem?

02-13-2006, 07:00 PM

*I'm not sure what you mean by mystery, TK. I'm Darren. I like fantasy football and sports in general. I was hoping to come over here and shoot the breeze. Is that a problem?

Not at all! It's just that we haven't advertised this place as of yet, so I was wondering how you found us.

Glad to have you.

Autumn Wind

02-13-2006, 07:03 PM

Guess TK won't be heading up the FAI Welcome Wagon. :no:

"Welcome to our site! How the fock did you get here? And would you mind having this tracking beacon implanted in your arm? TIA!"

02-13-2006, 07:15 PM

Also, Darren, pay no attention to AW. We're of the opinion that he was dropped as a baby.

Autumn Wind

02-13-2006, 07:21 PM

Also, Darren, pay no attention to AW. We're of the opinion that he was dropped as a baby.

Yeah, well it's better than being dropped as an adult. POW!!!! Oh yeah!!! I said it! :points:

Wilzone

02-13-2006, 08:31 PM

*I'm not sure what you mean by mystery, TK. I'm Darren. I like fantasy football and sports in general. I was hoping to come over here and shoot the breeze. Is that a problem?

Like I said, Darren. Just say the word and I'll take care of TK. :whip:

dolfan06

02-13-2006, 08:58 PM

Like I said, Darren. Just say the word and I'll take care of TK. :whip:

I wish Wilzone and TK would refrain from making comments like this outside of the Wilzone/TK Gay S&M Board.

To Darren's point about what Gretzky knew when, and without taking the time to read a single news story on this topic, I'd bet that Gretzky knew his wife was betting but didn't view it as a big deal because (i) he didn't know how much money she was betting, (ii) even if he did, $500,000 is like pocket change to them, (iii) he didn't think the betting was illegal, (iv) even if he did, he viewed it as a victimless crime and decided to trust his wife and, if he knew his assistant coach was involved, to trust his assistant coach as something they were doing as friends, and (v) if he put any limits on her, he would have told her to make for god-damn sure she wasn't betting on hockey, which she didn't.

DarrenW

02-14-2006, 03:19 AM

I wish Wilzone and TK would refrain from making comments like this outside of the Wilzone/TK Gay S&M Board.

To Darren's point about what Gretzky knew when, and without taking the time to read a single news story on this topic, I'd bet that Gretzky knew his wife was betting but didn't view it as a big deal because (i) he didn't know how much money she was betting, (ii) even if he did, $500,000 is like pocket change to them, (iii) he didn't think the betting was illegal, (iv) even if he did, he viewed it as a victimless crime and decided to trust his wife and, if he knew his assistant coach was involved, to trust his assistant coach as something they were doing as friends, and (v) if he put any limits on her, he would have told her to make for god-damn sure she wasn't betting on hockey, which she didn't.
It appears that Wayne's wiretaps were after the fact, so it looks like his claim that he knew nothing may hold water. I still have a hard time understanding how his wife does all of this without his knowledge. He must never deal with the finances if he doesn't notice 500K is missing.

S.D. Jones

02-14-2006, 03:28 AM

It appears that Wayne's wiretaps were after the fact, so it looks like his claim that he knew nothing may hold water. I still have a hard time understanding how his wife does all of this without his knowledge. He must never deal with the finances if he doesn't notice 500K is missing.

I still think he's a lying piece of shit Canuck.