Bonds DID steroids...

[kraziness]

Shocking, I know. SI reporting... (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/03/06/news.excerpt/index.html)

[EMoney]

Not 1 damn reply? :clap:

[Steebo]

It's cause he posted it at the Sanc too.:yes:

[EMoney]

It's cause he posted it at the Sanc too.:yes:

:snicker:

[kraziness]

It's cause he posted it at the Sanc too.:yes:

Guess I got my answer as to which board I should post things at to get good discussion :dunno:

I'm shocked that this many people don't care about this.

[TK]

I'm shocked that this many people don't care about this.

I couldn't see the article, but now I've heard the story.

What can I say? It's not surprising at all. I think we all knew he was a steroid user. I really don't think this will change much. He'll still get his records, despite being a cheater, which is at the least disgusting.

[Steebo]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2368426

[OB]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2368426
I am a huge baseball fan, and I will always love the game. That said, Bonds holding both the career and single season Home Run records partially due to cheating will be a disgrace, and Baseball will be a joke for it. :sadbanana:

It's not that I don't care about the SI article, it's just that it's not really news to me. Anyone who honestly had doubts about Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, etc... and steroids was kidding themselves.

[kraziness]

It just seems (to me) like you can't even refute the amount of stuff that's come out, and yet people still run to the "he hasn't tested positive" card and act like this stuff is no big deal because he hasn't tested positive.

IMO, there is no way around it, MLB is going to have to recognize all these new records, but they'll HAVE to put asterisks on each and every one of them: McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, and anyone else from 1990 on that holds a hitting record *



* Occured prior to steroid testing
** Later testified before a grand jury that he had unknowingly taken Peforming enhancing drugs
*** Linked, through numerous people (including personal trainer) to PED's.
*** Is a douchebag

[TK]

I keep hearing the same statement thrown about: "Steroids can't help you hit a baseball".

Okay, fine. Whatever. But it seems pretty stupid, if you could hit a baseball just fine without steroids, to cheat just so you can hit it farther.

Doesn't wash with me.

[kraziness]

I've heard that refuted on ESPN radio pretty recently, with the obvious statement... it doesn't help you make contact, but it does help you put more power into it.

Like, for instance, if a guy was a phenomenal hitter and averaged .300+ and had oh, say... 37 homers, with steroids, his avg wouldn't necessarily go up, but a lot of his warning track pop fly's and line drives gain 10 feet and go out. So, that 37 homer guy might add another 20-30 homers to his totals. :unsure:

Oh, also, it helps you recover from injuries faster, and recover from workouts faster. If any Major League player could tell you with a straight face that working out more wouldn't give them an advantage over a guy that couldn't work out... well, i don't know what I'd say to that, but it'd be pretty insulting.

[Steebo]

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A judge denied Barry Bonds' bid to block the authors and publishers from making money on a book claiming the San Francisco Giants slugger used steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs, and said Bonds' suit against them has little chance of success.


http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5439376

[Steebo]

SAN FRANCISCO - Barry Bonds' personal trainer is back in prison after refusing to testify to the federal grand jury investigating the San Francisco Giants' slugger for perjury.


http://www.comcast.net/news/sports/index.jsp?cat=SPORTS&fn=/2006/07/06/428441.html


So basicly all this asshole has to do is wait out the jury and he gets off scott free?:mad:

[Steebo]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2550685


SAN FRANCISCO -- A federal judge here upheld the validity Tuesday of a grand jury subpoena demanding that two San Francisco Chronicle reporters testify about who leaked them secret testimony of Barry Bonds and other elite athletes ensnared in the government's steroid probe

[Steebo]

http://www.comcast.net/sports/index.jsp?cat=SPORTS&fn=/2006/08/17/457422.html&cvqh=tis_bonds


Feds Ask Again to Jail Bonds' Trainer
By PAUL ELIAS, Associated Press Writer
Thu Aug 17, 6:21 AM

SAN FRANCISCO - Barry Bonds' personal trainer may go back to jail for refusing again to testify about his acquaintances before a grand jury. What he told federal prosecutors, however, has dragged Tom Brady's name into the BALCO case.

In a June statement to prosecutors about his intentions to stay mum, Greg Anderson said he and the New England Patriots quarterback had spoken over the phone _ but never established further contact.

"I had only one brief conversation with Tom Brady regarding a potential future workout," Anderson said. "I never had another phone conversation with him and never discussed it with anyone."

Anderson also told federal prosecutors June 23 that he would continue to withhold testimony from a newly assembled grand jury that is reportedly also investigating track coach Trevor Graham.

"I will not ever make statements about other people," Anderson said in the statement, which was included in court documents unsealed Wednesday. "That has always been my position and will continue to be."

On Thursday, prosecutors planned to ask U.S. District Judge William Alsup to send Anderson to prison if he stands by that policy.

Paula Canny, an Anderson attorney and friend, said Brady's name appears along with "10 to 20" other athletes that Anderson's grand jury subpoena lists as people the trainer should be prepared to answer questions about. Canny said investigators may have gotten Brady's name from Anderson's phone records seized by the government, though Anderson doesn't refer to any other athletes in his brief statement.

Brady attended the same Bay Area high school as Bonds. His agent, Donald Yee, couldn't be reached for comment Wednesday, and the New England Patriots declined comment on Anderson's statement.

"I don't have any information on it," Patriots spokesman Stacey James said. "I'm not going on hearsay."

Anderson has refused on four different occasions to testify before federal grand juries investigating Bonds. He was released from prison July 20 after serving 15 days for refusing to testify, but only after that grand jury's term expired.

Government lawyers are investigating whether Bonds lied under oath when he told an earlier grand jury he didn't know whether the substances given to him by Anderson were steroids. The grand jury probe also reportedly is focused on whether the San Francisco Giants slugger paid taxes on the sale of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of sports memorabilia.

The New York Times reported last month that the grand jury is also looking into the possible involvement of Graham, the track coach of Marion Jones and Justin Gatlin, who tested positive earlier this year for elevated testosterone.

Anderson previously served three months in prison after pleading guilty to steroid distribution and money laundering stemming from the government's investigation of the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative, which that allegedly supplied Bonds and other elite athletes with performance-enhancing drugs.

Some legal experts see Anderson as the key to proving the perjury allegations, since Bonds reportedly testified that the trainer gave him two substances that fit the description of "the cream" and "the clear" _ two performance-enhancing drugs linked to BALCO.

In 2003, Bonds reportedly testified to the grand jury investigating BALCO that he believed the substances were flaxseed oil and arthritis balm, not steroids.

Anderson also could offer insight into the doping calendars bearing Bonds' name that were seized when federal agents raided Anderson's house, according to court papers connected to the steroids probe.

But Anderson's lawyers say he shouldn't have to testify because of the numerous leaks of secret grand jury testimony to the San Francisco Chronicle during the course of the four-year investigation. Chronicle reporters Lance Williams and Mark Fainaru-Wada have written a book based largely on leaked testimony.

A federal judge has told the reporters they must tell a grand jury who leaked them secret testimony. The pair have said they would go to jail rather than reveal their source or sources.

Anderson's lawyers also say the agreement he made with prosecutors to plead guilty last year in the BALCO case stipulated he wouldn't have to cooperate in the investigation. Anderson also shouldn't have to testify because he was the target of an illegal wiretap, they argue.

The new grand jury ordering Anderson's testimony can stay in session for as long as 18 months. By law, an intransigent Anderson can be locked up for the grand jury's full term, though a judge can free him sooner if convinced he never will talk.

[Steebo]

http://www.comcast.net/sports/index.jsp?cat=SPORTS&fn=/2006/08/28/464855.html&cvqh=tis_bonds



Bonds' Trainer in Contempt, Prison-Bound
By DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer
Mon Aug 28, 7:26 PM

SAN FRANCISCO - Barry Bonds' personal trainer was back in jail Monday, where he'll stay until he agrees to testify before a federal grand jury investigating the Giants slugger.

Greg Anderson, found in contempt of court for his refusal to talk, could remain behind bars for more than a year while the grand jury investigates Bonds for perjury and tax evasion.

"Sometimes sitting in the cooler for a long time may have a therapeutic affect and may change his mind," U.S. District Judge William Alsup said during the rancorous, hourlong hearing, after which authorities whisked Anderson into custody.

"Maybe in 16 months he will change his mind," Alsup said, referring to the remainder of the grand jury's term.

Anderson, who has appeared five times before two federal grand juries without answering pertinent questions, also was held in contempt of court for two weeks last month but was released when that grand jury's term expired.

Mark Geragos, the trainer's attorney, said he would appeal the judge's order.

The name of New York Yankees outfielder Gary Sheffield re-surfaced during Monday's hearing as an angry Alsup recited the questions Anderson refused to answer before the grand jury.

The questions included whether Anderson injected Bonds with steroids and "whether Anderson knows Barry Bonds or Gary Sheffield."

Prosecutor Matthew Parrella told the judge the government also was investigating unnamed athletes associated with Anderson and said there was a "mountain of evidence" to form the basis of the questions asked of Anderson. Parrella said the evidence included documents seized at Anderson's house in the BALCO investigation and from "testimony of other witnesses."

The trainer already has served three months in prison and three months of home detention after pleading guilty to steroid distribution and money laundering in the investigation of the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative, which allegedly supplied Bonds and other elite athletes with performance-enhancing drugs.

On Monday, Alsup rejected Geragos' plea that testifying before the grand jury would violate a deal Anderson struck last December to plead guilty in the BALCO case. Geragos said Anderson specifically stated he would not cooperate with the government as part of the deal.

At issue is whether Bonds lied under oath when he told the grand jury investigating BALCO in 2003 that he did not knowingly use steroids and that Anderson gave him what he believed to be flaxseed oil and arthritic balm.

Anderson has refused to say whether he gave Bonds steroids. Alsup told Geragos jailing Anderson might test "how loyal your client wants to be."

"Will he go down there and say whether he injected Barry Bonds with steroids?" Alsup asked.

Sheffield, who also testified before the grand jury in 2003, has admitted using a cream he got from Anderson but said in a 2004 interview with Sports Illustrated that he did not knowingly use steroids.

In the book "Game of Shadows," two San Francisco Chronicle reporters wrote Anderson put Sheffield on injectable testosterone and human growth hormone in 2002, later selling him the designer steroids known as "the cream" and "the clear."

Sheffield adopted Bonds' heavy training program when he visited the San Francisco star after the 2001 season and lived at his home in Hillsborough for two months, according to the book published earlier this year.

Although Bonds and Sheffield later had a personal falling out, Sheffield wanted to maintain a relationship with Anderson so he could keep getting the drugs, the authors wrote.

Rufus Williams, Sheffield's agent, did not immediately return calls for comment.

[Steebo]

More Anderson crap (http://www.comcast.net/sports/mlb/index.jsp?cat=BASEBALL&fn=/2006/09/14/476600.html&cvqh=bonds)


Bonds' personal trainer asks to be freed
By PAUL ELIAS, Associated Press Writer
Thu Sep 14, 2:56 PM

SAN FRANCISCO - Barry Bonds' personal trainer has asked a federal appeals court to free him from prison for refusing to testify before a grand jury investigating the Giants slugger.

Greg Anderson, who has appeared five times before two federal grand juries without answering pertinent questions, filed court papers late Wednesday through his attorney Mark Geragos. The papers allege many of the same points Anderson has argued unsuccessfully to a trial court since July when a judge first ordered him jailed.

Anderson has been held since Aug. 28 at the Federal Correctional Institution in Dublin.

The trainer already has served three months in prison and three months of home detention after pleading guilty to steroid distribution and money laundering stemming from the government's investigation of BALCO, which allegedly supplied Bonds and other elite athletes with performance-enhancing drugs.

Numerous grand jury leaks have left Anderson mistrustful that his testimony will be kept confidential, Geragos said. Testifying also would violate a deal Anderson struck last December in the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative case, in which Anderson specifically stated he wouldn't cooperate with the government.

Judge William Alsup rejected those arguments, as well as a third claim that Anderson was a target of an illegal wiretap. A federal appeals court also rejected the wiretap argument.

In the new court papers, Geragos said Anderson answered more than 50 questions. But prosecutors have argued Anderson answered only rudimentary questions like providing his name. Prosecutors said Anderson didn't answer any substantive questions about performance-enhancing drugs and his responses were designed only to delay the process, Assistant U.S. Attorney Matthew Parrella argued Aug. 16.

For instance, Anderson refused to answer when Parrella asked, ``Did you distribute anabolic steroids to Barry Bonds?''

U.S. Attorney spokesman Luke Macaulay said Thursday ``we will respond in court as appropriate.'' The government has until Sept. 20 to file opposing arguments.

Anderson spent 15 days in prison last month for refusing to testify, but he was freed after that grand jury's term expired.